Plane in the lagoon at Orona

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Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

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Contrary to my speculation, I think the bulky things under the tarps as seen on the aft camera(s) are the launch and retrieve boat for the ASV autonomous surface vessel DRiX. The ship passed 250 miles east of the Phoenix Islands on the transit from Hawaii to Samoa.
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The Nautilus is just Northwest of Tutuila American Samoa. This is near the location of the tragic 1938 air disaster of the Samoan Clipper S-42. Captain Musick and entire crew were lost. I think maybe Dr. Ballard is searching for the lost ship just as the Nautilus did in 2019. Nautilus has multiple vehicles in the water including the ASV Drix. This is encouraging. Hopefully the expedition will look for Amelia's airplane in the lagoon at Orona. We'll see later this fall.
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Nautilus has started the Howland Island area cruise. Mapping the ocean bottom is the mission of this expedition. In transit the various heading courses has the ship located just off the West side of Nikumaroro and heading North. Looks as though sonar search along the path will be looking for the mysterious object spotted earlier this year by another expedition that claims the object is Amelia's aircraft. Of course that sonar image can't be the plane as claimed because the 2006 satellite image shows the aircraft in the lagoon at Orona (Hull Island). For some reason, Google Earth still hasn't updated the Kiribati island name despite the change years ago. Amelia's aircraft is measurable and all the dimensions correspond exactly with the L10E Electra aircraft. In transit from Samoa, the Nautilus came within 140 NM of Orona. If the remainder of the year is dedicated to other expeditions, it looks as though the chances of investigation at Orona are over for 2024.
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The recent sonar image has proven to be a seafloor rock formation. Unlike the Orona 2006 satellite image, there was no measurements provided. The Orona measurements and obvious resemblance to the Electra are not enough to convince other investigators that this is Amelia Earhart's plane at the bottom of the Orona lagoon.
The Orona-Saipan theory of disappearance (Japanese capture) is not liked because it reveals that the Itasca failed in it's mission of support for the flight. The Itasca never transmitted radio homing beacon for use by the flight for radio homing/navigation. The Itasca could not transmit on the 3105 Kc voice as required during the approach to Howland Island. These multiple failures were directly responsible for the loss of the fliers and eventual capture by Japanese forces.
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The Japanese attacked the US Naval Forces at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii on Dec. 7, 1941. Today, eighty three years later, the full story of the attack is still under examination. Mainly as to why the Japanese would start the great Pacific War without warning. The Orona-Saipan theory speculations add the origin and execution of a spy hoax by Tojo Hideki.

If the Earhart disappearance is considered a crime, the three elements of crime can be used to help solve this mystery. The three elements are MOM or means, opportunity, and motive. The means and opportunity scenario described fits the evidence on hand. The world flight by Earhart was known worldwide including the Japanese military . When general Tojo Hideki learned that his agents on Gardner Island (Nikumaroro) had intercepted radio signals from the downed flight coming from nearby Hull Island (Orona), the General ordered his men to take Amelia and Fred captive. The kidnappers, members of Tojo’s Kempeital terrorist group, had been on Gardner monitoring the communications of the USS Avocet and HMS Wellington. The electronic spies hoped to intercept encoded messages for later study. The USS Avocet and HMS Wellington had been at Canton (Kanton) Island in support of the June 1937 total eclipse of the sun sponsored by the USN and National Geographic. The following posts review the evidence that the fliers were kidnapped by Tojo's terrorists and imprisoned at Saipan.
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Tojo was the commander of Japanese forces in Northern China and effective controller of the Japanese puppet state Manchukuo (Manchuria). In invading and pushing all Chinese forces out, numerous war crimes were committed by theJapanese Kwantung army. By 1937, Tojo had realized he had no way to conquer all of China’s vast population. He decided to resort to terrorism as the way to conquer China. Knowing his misdeeds in Northern China were known to the international community, Tojo calculated total war with the leading western powers was the only way to escape the international criminal courts. He invented numerous arguments before the Emperor and other military leaders that the western powers US and UK were planing for war. In the middle 1930s Tojo argued before the Emperor Hirohito for more funding for the army but by 1937 had stopped feuding with the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) and backed more funding for the IJN. He did so knowing a modern carrier fleet with all metal monoplane fighters was going to be needed in order to overcome the largest block to his plans; the USN. As the partner in the Nazi Tri-Axis, these arguments gained favor as the war in Europe continued with Axis victory seemingly assured. The terrorest group Kempiatal, modeled after the Nazi Gestapo, was controlled by Tojo. Any activity in the Asia-Pacific realm was under surveillance by the group. And that group of vicious criminals reported directly to Tojo.
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