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Need Help With An ETO MIA

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:34 pm
by Michael Littman
I am searching for information about PFC Arthur Littman USAAC who went MIA on 27 November 1943 in Europe. This is a wonderful site so I was wondering if there might be a similar site for ETO casualties and wrecks? Any information or leads will be deeply appreciated.

Re: Need Help With An ETO MIA

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:05 pm
by Daniel Leahy
Hi Michael,

Unfortunately I do not know of a specific database of MIAs/Wrecks which covers the whole ETO, though there are a number of specialist sites out there (for various groups, services, regions etc). Best bet would be try http://www.armyairforces.com as a start.

Here are some details from searches I've already done:
1) According to the ABMC Database, PFC Arthur Littman, 32710557 is listed on the Tablets of the Missing at the North Africa American Cemetery, Carthage, Tunisia as having died (or being declared dead) on 27 November 1943. Unfortunately it doesn't list a specific unit.
2) I am unable to find a MACR on Footnote which includes Arthur Littman's name or service number.
3) The ArmyAirForces.com MACR database lists a number of aircraft as missing on 27 November 1943, though those MACRs related to Med/ETO groups do not show PFC Littman as being on board.

Sorry this isn't much more than what you've already provided. If you have any further information, please feel free to forward it through and we'll see what we can do.

Re: Need Help With An ETO MIA

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:16 pm
by PF
ABMC record:

Arthur Littman
Private First Class, U.S. Army Air Forces
Service # 32710557
Army Air Corps
Entered the Service from: New York
Died: 27-Nov-43
Missing in Action or Buried at Sea
Tablets of the Missing at North Africa American Cemetery
Carthage, Tunisia
Awards: Purple Heart

Re: Need Help With An ETO MIA

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:02 pm
by Michael Littman
Daniel Leahy wrote:Hi Michael,

Unfortunately I do not know of a specific database of MIAs/Wrecks which covers the whole ETO, though there are a number of specialist sites out there (for various groups, services, regions etc). Best bet would be try http://www.armyairforces.com as a start.

Here are some details from searches I've already done:
1) According to the ABMC Database, PFC Arthur Littman, 32710557 is listed on the Tablets of the Missing at the North Africa American Cemetery, Carthage, Tunisia as having died (or being declared dead) on 27 November 1943. Unfortunately it doesn't list a specific unit.
2) I am unable to find a MACR on Footnote which includes Arthur Littman's name or service number.
3) The ArmyAirForces.com MACR database lists a number of aircraft as missing on 27 November 1943, though those MACRs related to Med/ETO groups do not show PFC Littman as being on board.

Sorry this isn't much more than what you've already provided. If you have any further information, please feel free to forward it through and we'll see what we can do.

Oustanding information. I do have some questions regarding the sites and databases your are referencing.

1. What is meaning of the acronym ABMC and how do I get to that database?
2. What is the meaning of MACR?

I have found, by searching on the net, that there appears to have been other casualties in the ETO, due to aircraft loss on that date. Is it too much of a stretch to make the connection that he was on one of the aircraft that was lost? Does an aircraft that crashes into the sea count as buried at sea? Thanks so much for all the help!

Re: Need Help With An ETO MIA

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:05 pm
by Michael Littman
PF wrote:ABMC record:

Arthur Littman
Private First Class, U.S. Army Air Forces
Service # 32710557
Army Air Corps
Entered the Service from: New York
Died: 27-Nov-43
Missing in Action or Buried at Sea
Tablets of the Missing at North Africa American Cemetery
Carthage, Tunisia
Awards: Purple Heart

Thanks a lot for this. So my questions are these. Can I assume that he was KIA in a aircraft crash off of North Africa? Is there any way of knowing what aircraft he might have been in? Are there lists of aircraft known to have crashed in the ETO on that date? Thanks so much in advance.

Re: Need Help With An ETO MIA

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:15 pm
by Michael Littman
ABMC=American Battle Monuments Commission

Re: Need Help With An ETO MIA

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:16 pm
by Michael Littman
MACR=Missing Air Crew Reports

Re: Need Help With An ETO MIA

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:10 pm
by RSwank
Arthur Littman was a casualty on the HMT Rohna, which was sunk Nov 26, 1943. Here is a link which has his name listed on the casualty lists. Search for Littman on the page.

http://www.dvrbs.com/rohna/RohnaIndex.htm


This sinking of the Rohna was kept very quiet during the war as it was sunk by a new type of guided bomb.
Here are some links about the Rohna. You can find many more by searching for HMT Rhona on Google.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMT_Rohna

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peoples ... 7740.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJfStft0I-I

Re: Need Help With An ETO MIA

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:37 am
by ariyanbeton
Here are some details from searches I've already done:
1) According to the ABMC Database, PFC Arthur Littman, 32710557 is listed on the Tablets of the Missing at the North Africa American Cemetery, Carthage, Tunisia as having died (or being declared dead) on 27 November 1943. Unfortunately it doesn't list a specific unit.
2) I am unable to find a MACR on Footnote which includes Arthur Littman's name or service number.
3) The ArmyAirForces.com MACR database lists a number of aircraft as missing on 27 November 1943, though those MACRs related to Med/ETO groups do not show PFC Littman as being on board.